THE HOUSE
THAT JIM BUILT
JIM WALTER HOMES THAT IS PART 2
Today is Oct 5, 2000 our dry waller is here this morning
and Dobbie the construction manager
was suppose to meet him here between 7:30am and 8:30 am ...well it is now
9:30am...wonder where he is....
Dobbie showed up at around 10:00am..... none
of them will speak to me...OH WELL
OH MY GOD....at 11:13am 2 more
trucks have showed up...I now have a trim crew, dry waller, painter, electron, a
construction manager and an assistant construction manager ....WOW, I am
shocked.... To bad this couldn't of happened 6 months ago......
Here it is Oct. 17,2000 and Jim Walters was suppose to have been here Oct 12th and the dry waller was suppose to be here on the 13th... none of them have showed up...nothing new.... They still have alot of repairs to redo and just do... My stove has dents in it and scratches all down the side, the porch still has splits in the wood, the stainless steel sink is rusted in several spots, the smoke detector is broken, wall stilled bowed in one of the bedrooms, bathroom still has a lot of the old texture showing, above all the tubs looks real bad, window screens have white spray paint, the whole outside of the house needs to be cleaned lot of mud from the first dry wallers all over it, ect ect...I have faxed JWH 3 times with a list....but no show on there part. We have started painting the insides which probably be taken as we accepted the work they have done! But in no way have we accepted it!
BETWEEN OCT. 15 AND THE 17TH I HAVE
RECEIVED 3 MORE E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE SAME
BOAT AS WE ARE WITH JWH. ONE MAN FROM OHIO HAS BEEN UNDER
CONSTRUCTION FOR 2 1/2 YEARS...HIS HOUSE FELL OF THE
FOUNDATION (we spoke with this family on the phone and he will share his
horror story as soon as he gets in his home), Well you terrible bitch you. How awful of you to pick on poor little old jim
walter. If
you haven't guessed by now, your story is not unique. A word of advice; at the very
end they will come in and butter you up to the max and ask you to sign a completion
form. DON'T..... DO NOT SIGN IT. ONCE YOU SIGN IT, THE HOUSE AND
ALL
IT'S PROBLEMS ARE YOUR BABY. YOU WON'T EVEN GET THE TIME OF
DAY
FROM JW AFTER THAT. As you've probably guessed I also have a jw home. I
won't bore you with my story. Suffice it to say that the guy that came out to dig the
footer for the foundation arrived in an old beatup economy car with a hand
shovel,(we live in the north georgia mountains, red clay and rocks), and it got
worse
from there.
After it's all done and everyone is gone you will almost daily find little problems
with
this and that, some of them incorrect able. For example, my back porch is not level
and when it rains the water all runs up against the house.
More advice; be a bitch, a bigger bitch, and finally strive to become the queen of
all
bitches.
Let me tell you what I've surmised from my experience with jw. They make money
by buying the materials as cheaply as possible. They make money by hiring the
cheapest subcontractors they can find. I estimate that jw had about 20k in labor and
materials in my 90% complete 70k home built in 1994. My experience tells me thay
have a high turnover in both jw personnel and in subs. To get a good house you
have to beat them with a hickory stick until the stick wears out then get another
stick.
I'm sorry you have had to endure this and perhaps your experience, along with mine
and others will save someone else from the pain and agony.
In conclusion, I'll tell you what my salesperson told me about jw. He wasn't with
them
long either. He said "Never miss a payment or even be late with one, they'll snatch
your house and property in a heartbeat." He also told me that often jw local office
staff would buy up the jw repos and that one woman in his local office owned three
of them. And finally, as soon as possible move your loan to another lender. Good
Luck I just got done visiting your web site (found it by
doing a search on JW
Homes) and I just have to say, if your pictures had been
of the Foxborough
model, I would SWEAR, SWEAR, SWEAR that my mother wrote
this!! They signed
papers in July '99 and right now are still waiting for
completion. I'm going
to e-mail my mom a link to your site so she might contact
you to share horror
stories. Just wanted to know though what you meant by
this:
<<******IMPORTANT UPDATE*******
DO NOT....I REPEAT DO NOT SIGN ANY CONTRACTS WITH JIM
WALTER HOMES UNTIL YOU
HAVE A LAWYER READ THE CONTRACTS!!!
SEPT. 8, 2000 MY LAWYER JUST CALLED ME AND HE IS NOT
PLEASED AT ALL WITH THE
MORTGAGE CONTRACT WE SIGNED.... HE HAS HAD SEVERAL OTHER
LAWYERS LOOK AT IT
AND IT IS NOT A GOOD CONTRACT. THE WAY THE MORTGAGE
AMOUNT IS WRITTEN IS THE
PROBLEM... E-MAIL ME FOR MORE DETAILS !!!!!>>
Thanks in advance and good luck,
Here is part of there e-mails I
have not changed a word of these e-mails..in fact I just cut and pasted them on this
page:
Today is OCT 18th,2000 and where oh where is JW
Homes?????? NOT HERE..... Just called there office again... Oh Dobbie
forgot..thought it was suppose to be tomorrow....Now I understand when family
illness happens and you can't make an appointment....but a phone call to say you
can't make it is nice....ok I will let this one pass...Still no word on when the dry
wall man will be here
Just got off the phone with JW Homes mortgage person in the OKC office...he was
real nice....can't believe I said that...but he was....atleast he was today....not letting
my guard down...any way he called to let us know that Bobert had signed off on the
house and our payments start in Dec, 2000 and that the OKC office has seen this
web page....he also ask what it would take me to be happy with Jim Walter's????
not sure what he meant by that remark...but any way.... We still haven't signed the
final papers...and they have gone over there 2 week period to have all the things on
the list that Bobert had listed on the final papers done......The more I think about all
of this I get really upset... I have to pay but the work isn't done????? Doesn't seem
right does it!
Dobbie had some one from his office call and say he would be out this afternoon....well the only one that came was the dry wall man....he was here about 30 to 45 minutes he fixed behind the upstairs toilet and that was all.
HERE IS THE REPAIR LIST of all we have found wrong and not
fixed
MASTER BEDROOM
Fire Alarm is faulty WE HAVE CHANGED BATTERY IN IT AND STILL BEEPS
EVERY 2 MINUTES NEEDS TO BE REPLACED
MASTER BATHROOM
Above and all around the tub needs fixed SLOPPY WORK
Dry wall around Shower nozzle does not cover the nozzle cover
UPSTAIRS BATHROOM
All around and above the tub NEEDS FIXING SLOPPY WORK
The dry wall around shower nozzle needs repaired
FRONT UPSTAIRS BEDROOM
South wall is bowed (TO ME THIS COULD BE SOME KIND OF STRUCTURAL
DAMAGE)
LIVING ROOM
The tv antenna cable has been pushed up inside the wall... WE FOUND THE
CALBE...THOUGHT IT WASN'T THERE.....
KITCHEN
Stove is it a second???? Has a dent and a scratch on the side and no cord..I WANT
IT REPLACED WITH A NEW ONE IN PERFECT CONDITION
Missing drawer front
Floor needs to be smoothed no pits
Sink is already rusting(needs to be replaced)..MUST BE SOME CHEAP
STAINLESS STEEL
OTHER ITEMS
Front porch- several places are split and has poor workmanship NEEDS TO BE
FIXED ALL SPLIT WOOD NEEDS REPLACED look around the whole
porch
Outside window screens have white spray paint on them
Inside stairs,front and back porch needs cleaning like we have been told
If this is being nit picky than I guess I am..... but I want my home done
right wouldn't you??????
Here is the front porch AFTER my husband cleaned
it..we had to use a power washer and it took over an hour to clean the front and
back porch deck!
ATTENTION JIM WALTER HOMES
PERSONNEL!
I am offering you a spot on this web page to explain WHY this
has happened to us! In all fairness I will give you a chance to explain! I will cut
and paste your e-mail to me with your explanation or your views on why we feel
the way we do about this company!
It is Oct 22, 2000
we have been painting all weekend...I got to the down stairs bathroom and would
you believe there is a 1/2 inch dip in the ceiling!!!!!! Just more documentation...
When will this nightmare END! They want a payment in Dec...but guess what we
have No account number or do we know where to send the payment to.....When we
had our insurance papers to prove we had insurance on the house...they didn't know
who we were! and said we didn't have an account with them......
It has now
been 22 days since the so call walk through and Bobert signed the release papers
(we didn't sign them) with the list of items to be fixed....some are still not
fixed..The wall is still bowed..when will this be fixed....not till we do it our
self!
Today is Oct.30,2000 and we have asked JWH not to come on our property again.
We will fix all of there screws our self at our cost. Every time they come fix some thing they mess up some thing else or do a job that looks like crap!
All we have asked them to to is get our kitchen drawer! and we still haven't gotten that...been over a week! We have gotten the downstairs all painted and most of the upstairs painted. While we have been painting we have found very crooked walls, big globs of putty on the walls, more cracks in the corners and ceiling. We will just fix them our self and absorb the cost...... Here is the latest screw up we have found. This is 3 pictures...look at the space between the 2 mouldings...It gets smaller and smaller..we don't know how we are going to fix this one
DO NOT....I REPEAT DO NOT SIGN ANY CONTRACTS WITH JIM
WALTER HOMES UNTIL
YOU HAVE A LAWYER READ THE CONTRACTS!!!
SEPT. 8, 2000 MY LAWYER JUST CALLED ME AND HE IS NOT
PLEASED AT ALL WITH
THE MORTGAGE CONTRACT WE SIGNED.... HE HAS HAD SEVERAL
OTHER LAWYERS
LOOK AT IT AND IT IS NOT A GOOD CONTRACT. THE WAY THE
MORTGAGE AMOUNT IS
WRITTEN IS THE PROBLEM... E-MAIL ME FOR MORE DETAILS
!!!!!
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